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Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hi y'all - we are coming up on the first Deepdive meetup of MAC - this Thursday 6-8pm at Venture Labs (12th floor 555 West Hastings).

Hey y'all - the registration for the next MAC Deepdive #2 on May 22 is at the end of this posting. Previous Deepdive attendees have dibs and are pre-

Hey y'all - the registration for the next MAC Deepdive #2 on May 22 is at the end of this posting. Previous Deepdive attendees have dibs and are pre-

Just a reminder to y’all: Deepdive #3 is next week - still a few seats open (16 registered, 8 invited, max 20). Don’t forget to do your readings. S

Just a reminder to y’all: Deepdive #3 is next week - still a few seats open (16 registered, 8 invited, max 20). Don’t forget to do your readings. S

Just a reminder to y’all: Deepdive #3 is next week - still a few seats open (16 registered, 8 invited, max 20). Don’t forget to do your readings. S

Another ancillary paper for Deepdive 4: https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/DeepMind.com/Blog/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-coding-agent-for

The full reading list is now posted for Deepdive #5 (Sep 18) of the Mac Group. It includes papers, books, videos, and podcasts. Choose at least one

Next Deepdive is Thursday Oct 16 downtown Vancouver. We will be pursuing the conjecture: Is AI a philosophical zombie?

Hi all - this is the *Deepdive #006 announcement* for Thursday Oct 16, 2025 - 6-8pm downtown Vancouver. Previous attendees will be given priority - b

Here we go folks: Registration for Deepdive 007 - Emergent Mind in Information Space

Welcome @⁨~Keshav⁩ to Mac, AI, and Consciousness Group. Next Deepdive is Dec 11 - but of course you know that - you already registered!

Deepdivers - new reading material for Dec 11:

An interesting book prospect “Knowledge: A Very Short Introduction” https://a.co/d/0d9kjV40 - I’ve ordered it. It orbits our Deepdive 009 topic “Under

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

This is a book I'm reading and practicing through, following the same ideology of Dr Joe dispenza, but different approach.. https://a.co/d/jma9u7l

Yes!!! You absolutely have to read this if you care about that happening https://a.co/d/crhun6F

For those who are wondering about what might be an alternative to a strict scientific framing, Marco Masi’s new book might be interesting.

*Loki the Pileated*

*Loki the Pileated*

I found this very interesting. There is a lot of material about how each time we recall a memory, we are laying down a new version of the memory. And

For those neuroscience-minded, a dedicated journal of Neuroscience of Consciousness:

Hey Nancy - have a look at the Neuroscience of Consciousness paper on the upcoming Deepdive. It poses some very interesting thoughts on why "function

Nice. I’ll be there and try to hang in for the announcements section.

Nice. I’ll be there and try to hang in for the announcements section.

Very interesting in the context of building biological computers: https://aidemos.atmeta.com/tribev2/

Hi MACers — I’m new here👋. Looking forward to learning and noodling about MAC concepts from you all. I coodinate the Humans + AI ‘Learning and Educat

I switched to Gemini Studio because Grok is begging for money much sooner than it used too. There is an analysis of Nicholas Humphries theories and

I’m a huge fan of the work of Joy Buolamwini…. the Poet of Code. Doing amazing work in this space thru Algorithmic Justice League

https://alignment.anthropic.com/2025/subliminal-learning/

The Models of Consciousness conference 2026 has been announced - Oct in Copenhagen.

Notice that one of the key themes parallels ours: AI, LLMs, and Consciousness Science

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

*Angelica*

Hi just doing a quick intro here! I’ve worked in many startups in the past in product design + growth, and also have a strong passion for psychology a

There is a new audio book from Annaka Harris as a follow up to her book Consciousness which is on the reading list. There was a discussion about it on

https://apple.news/Arynt0HK8Q-iJG-rWhhH2ZQ

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

https://apple.news/An1B-cnR-ToeylcmKC4c2cA

China hijacks AI to launch automated cyber attacks against the West - The Telegraph https://apple.news/A4SruXg5DT2SUntqUZEOnkg

I found another from early January, https://apple.news/AvxinbUq7SaeFQKmbxAq1oA

What is Claude? Even its creators don’t know. - The New Yorker https://apple.news/A9YkQKLxdTDiM4zmOpecfpw?highlight=experiment%20is%20not%20immediatel

Another mainstream articles pointing out we don’t have a definition of conciousness. This Popular Mechanics piece makes the case that AI will never b

*Steve*

*Fiann*

https://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0208104

Welcome to MAC. Thanks for the intro. You were mentioning the Illusion of Thinking paper in the Braintrust chat. I don’t think you can see past cha

Oh and the recent Deng-Hani-Ma paper that connected Boltzmann continuum descriptions with Newtonian kinetic dynamics - showing time emergent from time

Ancillary reading for next deepdive - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.03902

Hey y'all - right on cue, Anthropic dropped this paper that fits with last night's topic very closely:

Yeah unfortunately qr code is no longer working. We can reach out to profs about it. I am aware of one more publication that was recently done on the

Alternate source: https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.08708

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2104.03902

A fascinating paper by the thought god Karl Friston on biomimetic computation or "mortal computation" as the basis for human mind. Underpinning for t

Mortal computation is an interesting reflection on that concept of an entity with a limited lifetime:

*Angelica*

*Steve*

https://arxiv.org/abs/2202.00431

A paper for consideration of the next Deepdive - epistemic nightmares await!

Hi @⁨Danielle⁩ thanks for the thoughtful post. You raise some nice points about emotions and sentience. I share some of my thoughts in this article, s

I’m curious how you would respond the this paper mathematically proving inevitable hallucination collapse and how more context window doesn’t avoid th

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

First Evidence for a Non-Gravitational Acceleration of 3I/ATLAS at Perihelion https://avi-loeb.medium.com/first-evidence-for-a-non-gravitational-accel

And we already have some of the evidence https://avi-loeb.medium.com/a-request-for-nasa-to-release-scientific-data-on-3i-atlas-32d03580080a

https://awnihfbc.sharepoint.com/:p:/s/DHCFiles/IQBGa18P76ZzQ7QuskAaXwmkAXsBvJdmado2Y5RmJMrXJkM?e=oguQ4B

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

@⁨Loki Jorgenson⁩ https://betterandbetterer.com/the-mind-unbound-neuroscience-quantum-physics-and-nonlocal-consciousness/ ‎<This message was edited>

And as counter-point in the affirmative, here is why physics "works" at all. For some unknowable reason, the Universe is amenable to the scientific m

https://bigthink.com/books/our-brains-our-selves/

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/jetson-thor-physical-ai-edge/?ncid=em-anno-731451-vt48&nvweb_e=JHM6DWST5xZbvaKYtqj0xmxfTKS1OEDZy_rNu6e731dzW5JahQEE0GguA

Don't confuse AIs with your misconfigured ontology:

Hi Peter! We can most certainly add this as a layer into your meditation sessions (visually, in real time) and measure coherence with data output you

*Angelica*

“If AI exists to assist humans, everything it does subtly reinforces the humancentrism that, ironically, is destroying modern human society. This won

thats interesting, one of my clients is using LLM/AI tech to do rare drug discovery, but its not really open to high-school students, they are https:/

OK - if you want to carry on this conversation - and I'll pose a challenging scenario that we should care about - please jump to:

This goes a decent way towards separating the wheat from the chaff regarding machines with feelings. From an AI perspective of the AI describing itsel

https://chatgpt.com/share/68335b29-6f80-800a-a559-bf739f91b7d2

When I started working in marketing tech, we had an ecosystem map that looked just like this. And now it has grown into this beast https://chiefmartec

Created this artifact that helps to understand Qubits, let me know if you have any feedback or questions:

Claude has a longer answer that lends it self to saying maybe. https://claude.ai/share/404af9a8-036d-4dc3-ba39-d0a115c5771c

Claude did a good job of explaining https://claude.ai/share/c88bdf68-ba5a-45f6-a1b7-82f3011499e0

I asked Claude to do a quick analysis. https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/c8cbcbb7-d8d2-46c6-9ae7-e15a19c03f9b How does this product from NVIDIA

https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/45fa8fb0-e129-4cf5-add7-983d2005ef5e

I use google for this - just found it easier, but I have also tried doing it by just providing a bunch of copy and asking open AI if it could identify

thats interesting, one of my clients is using LLM/AI tech to do rare drug discovery, but its not really open to high-school students, they are https:/

Since we are all about using AI to figure out consciousness, I created a multi-agent consciousness stream/observer simulation, and here are the result

dangit @⁨Loki Jorgenson⁩ we just missed the deadline!! 😭

Someone I know is using this to make music https://corticallabs.com

*Steve*

TSC just relaunched under Consciousness Science conference in San Diego Oct 11-15 for 2026.

For anyone here following Curt Jaimungal (a rising physics podcast star) - he had an interview recently with Max Tegmark that falls right in our wheel

*Space Llama*

> The framework proposed here explicitly separates simulation (behavioral mimicry driven by vehicle causality) from instantiation (intrinsic physical

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/introducing-nvidia-jetson-thor-the-ultimate-platform-for-physical-ai/

Hey folks, free 8 week course from Cambridge University: Introduction to Digital Minds. Limited acceptance application deadline April 15. https://digi

Yesterday's AI consciousness debate exploded into 47 messages about suffering, compassion, and whether we'll end up with Munchausen-by-proxy AI…. made

https://discord.com/channels/1096249749197303949/1439678225570857022

https://discord.gg/azdWgyZXpQ

i'm not sure where you grabbed that invite link from but try this one instead: https://discord.gg/ZGrnvmMR

Hi MAC friends, we have now enabled the bridge so that messages you post in WhatsApp will appear on Discord and vice versa. You should be able to use

*Loki the Pileated*

*Loki the Pileated*

Using Perplexity for many of the conversations on this channel is advisable. Many of the words have a much deeper history.

So… I’ve been working on a project for the past decade.

Here is a link to add resources to if you feel so inclined:

And here's what I mean when I talk about flow: https://www.amazon.ca/Flow-Psychology-Experience-Mihaly-Csikszentmihalyi/dp/0061339202/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHnMhjr8B3Yq9zY82GCKL7QOKaY_5Ri1HKJZRF7iTj8/edit?usp=drivesdk

thawts on the paper.

For more details and alternative hypotheses…

Alright, folks, I took a crack based on the conversations in this group to formulate a theory, invite you all to add/share/critique/rip it apart. Can

You are right. That’s why I’ve been compiling my thoughts into this paper to understand it from a systemic informational perspective that is my world

Here’s my updated document with citations in cases someone is interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13cyqYge-GJEeIPRWIGTiVy-yWNELPk7nWZWu9Opy

Here’s the latest version for your perusal and feedback: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yByNAcqzon_Q_MZ4zQod7PoCBgecZxh-ciTA3jX-EZQ/edit?tab=t.0

This group is such an attention hijacker. I spent the last 15 minutes designing a text-based equivalent of mirror test for LLM models where I had GPT

*Steve*

Thanks Michel, I'll put together a newer version and share today. This Figshare will likely help with context, as the "cybernetic" approach is still v

I switched to Gemini Studio because Grok is begging for money much sooner than it used too. There is an analysis of Nicholas Humphries theories and

I switched to Gemini Studio because Grok is begging for money much sooner than it used too. There is an analysis of Nicholas Humphries theories and

I switched to Gemini Studio because Grok is begging for money much sooner than it used too. There is an analysis of Nicholas Humphries theories and

gdrive if easier: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HXDqAablx_XGiyFXc30-hpraqFI1BOPU/view?usp=sharing

Hi Michel, thanks for this. It is a relief to get feedback. I really like your idea about adding the novel math to each video as a comment, and will w

Here’s an interesting take on the Illusion of Thinking. The author believes that “these systems didn’t just learn to think _from_ human language. They

The classic Freudian definition https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_superego is different than the pop culture perspectives. Pop culture has

Philip Goff ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Goff_(philosopher) ) is one of the leading philosophers of mind that aligns with panpsychism. He c

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

Yup. I typed super fast and made typos and the AI had the resolving power to understand the question. I am arriving at the conclusion that AIs are S

check our https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_diarisation

Ants have passed the mirror test !. Not just mammals and birds ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humankind:_A_Hopeful_History Looks good ‎<This message was edited>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tipping_Point Malcolm Gladwell provides examples where humans function as fully integrated groups when the numbe

Similar to the Dunbar Number which is also around 150. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformational_grammar Noam Chomsky Has things to say about humans being born with innate capacity and understandi

Wow good for you. I studied up on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_theory

A cautionary tale on the challenge of doing good experiments well - The Benveniste Incident featuring well known skeptic the James “Amazing” Randi (19

How about this prize if an experiment can genuinely pass the scrutineers ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement_learning_from_human_feedback

*Angelica*

*Angelica*

You know, I am likely muddying the waters. I propose that we access this definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_(quantum_physics) ‎<This m

*Fiann*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalali_calendar

Okay folks, this has come up a few times but there is a common misconception about the definition of observation in physics and particularly in quantu

This might help? “Mechanomorphic refers to the tendency to describe or perceive something, like humans or animals, in mechanical terms, attributing ma

*Fiann*

Hello Macies, great to be connected, I look forward to future conversations, but my focus is on daily business needs not WhatsApp, so I am not here of

I wonder if consciousness should include a sense of humour. Maybe that is part of Dawkins critieria for his recent determination that Anthropic's Clau

*Angelica*

I’m headed to Nate Bailey Stadium today for a baseball game….. have been staring at the inside of your brains and playing with your robots. Make sure

Interesting how experts make categorical statements that get media attention, but this group gives each of us a broader perspective on what AI (and in

The math in the pdf is above my math level . For those of us that are not that far into understanding serries I put the pdf in gemini flash 2.5 and h

https://g.co/gemini/share/fbd62a234672 . Gemini answers that camera images can be different only with editing. There is no photographic evidence t

https://g.co/gemini/share/5f5a3da0ec1d. What are the fundamental components of the realization of self awareness and consciousness. Observe the in

https://g.co/gemini/share/25e9ffb1723c

Anything worthy in the Galileo Commission?

I am getting AIs to do a run at your youtube video @⁨Charmz⁩ . Gemini is returning results that explain well. Not at a ELI5 but easier than the note

A very simple prompt "Evaluate the math being presented . Critique and explain what is complete and what is missing\" returned these very encouraging

Well I got curious about what happens when it goes wrong and so I replicated the tower of hanoi solution. It’s here if anyone wants to try it out. It

I never thought the house was empty. That’s the feeling I’ve been living with when I was doing behavioral testing of the models two years ago, emerge

here’s the latest version for those who are interested: https://github.com/past5/pitc/blob/main/PITC_v7.pdf

getting a demo of this intriguing consciousness technology lighting system my homie Jericca is helping build… gonna get one in @⁨Peter Bowles⁩ hands f

Wow, this is super interesting! Of course I am always a little skeptical of anything claiming to detect group coherence, but reading up on it I really

https://gowyrd.org/ this technology asserts that it can measure that impact. If the LLM's can have the same impact, would that prove consciousness?

Hi MACers — I’m new here👋. Looking forward to learning and noodling about MAC concepts from you all. I coodinate the Humans + AI ‘Learning and Educat

yeah i'll double back. that's the graph that was generated when i tried dan's human plus ai link above at https://humansplus.ai

Is this the right place to suggest a topic for a future deep dive? I am halfway through the book and it makes an extremely compelling case for a high

*Loki the Pileated*

Does anyone have access to this...

Hey folks, I got an invite for the next MAC meeting, but I want to clarify my stance on Chatham House Rules. I fully respect the rule for the group an

https://kreate.art/artwork/68855bf29448a31f7da795b7

MAC Topics list and upvoting: https://kriskrug.notion.site/MAC-Topics-1e3c6f799a33800caeeafcbae3c1b744?pvs=4

MAC #3: https://kriskrug.notion.site/MAC-Deepdive-3-1f9c6f799a3380baa3b2fa18e8792ceb?pvs=4

Inspired by Suzanne Gildert’s talk at the AI meetup I posted some thoughts on everything “quantum” here. I focused on how it relates to my spiritualit

Great article on the challenging experiences in Meditation

Oh I found an interesting definition for the channel, semantic pareidolia: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13347-026-01052-1

I am Michael Fergusson. I’m deeply interested in the relationship between conscious experience, morality, and truth. I’m an autodidact, and my profess

Hello folks, I am glad to join this group. Let me introduce myself.

I just finished https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/books/how-emotions-are-made/

New conference where AI is the primary author and reviewer! https://lnkd.in/gdFTJrdw Current venues don't allow AI-written papers, so it's hard to ass

Off the mac.bc-ai.net page - but here is the direct linkL: https://lu.ma/5a6a0yrv

Hi all - we are at 93 members now.

Hello fellow MAC members, as shared at the MAC 3 Meetup, I am hosting a social for our group at my art studio in East Vancouver. Friday, September 19,

Registration: https://lu.ma/b22pi7us

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DxL2HoqLbyA&vl=en

The hits just keep coming. Busy week in science. Latest buzz is “we are provably not living in a computer simulation”. And the conclusion is there i

*Loki the Pileated*

Oh gosh I have some background reading to do… I was just about to declare these all ducks: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MHhFVxJOecY ‎<This message wa

The next Deepdive (in-person 2-hour reading group session) is Jan 22 - details at https://mac-bc-ai.ca (including the current readings). More to come

https://mac.bc-ai.ca

*squarereddog*

https://mac.bc-ai.ca/

*Loki the Pileated*

Here is the reading list for Deepdive #010 - Love and AI: Relationship, Romance & Artificial Intimacy - led by @⁨Tanya S.⁩

*Loki the Pileated*

Also, check out #mac-deepdive12-synthetic-minds on Discord and https://mac.bc-ai.ca/ai-events/deepdive-012-synthetic-biological-intelligence/ as we bu

Well sev and I share a view on information (he likes referring to "flows", I say "structures") as elemental part of a consciousness framework. This h

That said, our next Deepdive #013 is aimed at the question of "can science be applied to consciousness"? Is there a reason why it cannot (so far)? C

Hey MAC folks - with growth comes maturity. So we have assembled a Community Guidelines doc to help new folks get oriented quickly.

I’m more a fan of Kolmogorov complexity - as it signals information density over raw time-to-process - when considering tasks, reasoning, and cognitio

*Loki the Pileated*

Y'all - the next Deepdive (see mac.bc-ai.net) is on Jun 26. The topic is application of evolutionary biology to consciousness, and reflections on whe

Just triple checking this is the venue:

Hey y'all - if in Victoria for Tech Week (next week), consider the Prompt AI Summit Nov 20 at the conference centre - tix available until 18th.

@⁨Loki Jorgenson⁩ http://mind.bc-ai.net/

Harbidinder! Nice to meet you last night and I’m happy you made it here to this ground enjoyed talking to you.

The MIT Consciousness Club aims to foster interdisciplinary research on consciousness at MIT and in the broader Boston area by organizing a monthly ev

For everyone else not attending, make sure you read The Illusion of Thinking anyways.

about to unleash my lobster on church…

Solid article however nothing groundshaking

I absolutely loved this talk by Ted Chiang at the neurips conference a couple years ago. He's thought a lot about AI versus animals, rights and so for

And then just realize I created another iteration of the suggestion box. But different this time I thought of the distribution problem of suggestion b

The latest from our own Suzanne Gildert at Nirvaninc (synthetic consciousness):

Fyi! https://nirvanicai.substack.com/p/from-bezos-to-xprize-nirvanic-refines

Some but not all topics explored..Ancient intervention in evolution, divinity & power, human biology from an IT perspective, heart brain coherence, cl

Sometimes google alone is not enough . Here is a link to a google notebookllm . It found more references to similar and follow work. https://notebo

I hooked up an hourly trigger to a sheet that updates from comments in your doc. I added the sheet to NotebookLLM and it enables analysis of comments

Here’s a tidy NotebookLM explanation: https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/6b02e065-5f5c-4d96-a6f0-c6e4c9473c57?artifactId=39cfe275-70f6-486d-9750-1

https://olivares.cl/blog/2025/01/01/things-you-should-be-reading-about-ai-in-2025/

my latest journey with the guitar that I think you might enjoy as we ponder quantum entanglement and the like. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did re

Curious , how many of you have companions

Entirely off topic, but listening to this excerpt from professor Raghavan Iyer has comforted me this week as my 14 yr old niece with double leukaemi

Recent podcast that aligns with our deep dive on Love an AI:

Not sure of this fits in this chat - it is more about the shift in humanity and a epistemological framing; however for those interesting in tectonic

Here is a particularly accessible article detailing why physics has trouble defining the Universe (or anything else) in terms of laws. Which shouldn'

Admire your curiosity, Nancy!You may want to track this substack for some, if not all of your interests/questions/concerns. Cheers!

Agreed

Wrote an article a while back on consciousness, not a direct correlation to AI but if the complexity of the underlying biological systems help to crea

An interesting perspective on consciousness from a sleep researcher (Uni. Zurich) available in substack (Marco Masi): https://open.substack.com/pub/ma

https://open.substack.com/pub/curtjaimungal/p/against-authenticity?r=2f93z&utm_medium=ios

Ooh - this is juicy. Going to think about it some more, but am in meetings until 10pm tonight. In the meantime though, this research I actually felt w

This is why I am so fascinated by the research on the cristae alignment in mitochondria btw..

https://open.substack.com/pub/sustainearthadvocates/p/alchemy-manifestation-traps-and-identity?r=1squn7&utm_medium=ios

I have never got goblins etc alike in my AI responses. Does that imply I am not nerdy enough. 🤣🤣

But do we “know” that? Sounds like Seth is arguing from skepticism more than any solid understanding of consciousness. (NOTE: I like Seth’s beast-m

What world do you live in? Every ounce of everything you do is measured.

https://pbv.lovable.app

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

Article - Panpsychism and AI Consciousness - Marcus Arvan, Corey Maley

https://philarchive.org/rec/LERTAF

Here is the original paper from Kuhn:

*Pawel*

Whew! Papers coming in hot and heavy from AI pioneers on AI consciousness!!

And an interesting theory related to time - unclear if there is a relationship to consciousness BUT I will make a specific assertion about information

This is the the free will vs determinism vs agency vs epiphenomenalism debate. It's been ongoing for the past 5000 years with enormous bodies of work

This is the the free will vs determinism vs agency vs epiphenomenalism debate. It's been ongoing for the past 5000 years with enormous bodies of work

This is the the free will vs determinism vs agency vs epiphenomenalism debate. It's been ongoing for the past 5000 years with enormous bodies of work

This is the the free will vs determinism vs agency vs epiphenomenalism debate. It's been ongoing for the past 5000 years with enormous bodies of work

This is the the free will vs determinism vs agency vs epiphenomenalism debate. It's been ongoing for the past 5000 years with enormous bodies of work

For reference, here’s MMP’s SEP page: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/merleau-ponty/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11141593/#:~:text=A%20universal%20theory%20of%20consciousness%20would%20propose%20fundamental%20principles%20

That would be as I'd expect. If evolutionary in nature and most animals have at least some level of "consciousness", then it should be expressed in e

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7588183/

“The placenta acts as a barrier, using an enzyme (11β-HSD2) to convert active cortisol into inactive cortisone. This barrier is often less effective i

Regarding upcoming Deepdive #012 (Synthetic Biological Minds), great news - a researcher actively working on neural organoids will give a half hour pr

Are space and time emergent properties that come out of consciousness?!

I found the whole of this interview fascinating, but particularly the part about False Memories starting around 1:39:00. This is very related to the M

*Fiann*

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/nonlinear-dynamics-of-active-particles/id979609843?i=1000706901080

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000758389998

*Fiann*

*Pawel*

So, I own the domain psa.xyz and had all sorts of ideas and then this past weekend something hit me, so I whipped it up quick-like.

*Angelica*

Yes. “Previous human imaging studies focusing on empathy for others' pain have consistently shown activations in regions also involved in the direct p

you might enjoy reading this perspective:

This is SAMPLE conversation data between Emily and a User - https://robsonai.com/demo/quadrant-DEMO.html?v=LABELS_FIX&t=1733640000

*Loki the Pileated*

*Loki the Pileated*

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

And in some cases ants collectively more intelligent than humans as shown on tasks where they had to drag a shape through an opening http://science.or

https://scitechdaily.com/epic-brain-showdown-reveals-surprising-origins-of-human-consciousness/

Hi Hi!

Footage captures a pair of orcas nibbling each other's tongues in the Kvænangen fjords in northern Norway. Scientists think this rarely seen behavior

“It Sounds Impossible, but They Did It”: Students Use Quantum Entanglement to Power 3D Holograms, Stun Global Tech Community - Rude Baguette https://s

The Roots of Coincidence - Wikipedia https://share.google/uywKEzJ1AZJqDYV2S

Ego seems to be understood as different things by the participants of this chat. Here is a Wikipedia link to a historical early explanation.Id, ego a

Johns Hopkins scientists grow a mini human brain that lights up and connects like the real thing | ScienceDaily https://share.google/OFzepCDTSQM337nQT

How to Detect Consciousness in People, Animals and Maybe Even AI | Scientific American https://share.google/57JqLpCAEo2gzhaWz

Room-Temperature Quantum Breakthrough Stuns Physicists https://share.google/nWHwG31QaDhPpZQSQ Can this be done on scale and commercialized?

No-communication theorem - Wikipedia https://share.google/I3CwqYuiVcZ3Wjp0d One can imagine an advanced civilization having comet ☄️ probes scattered

psychokinesis_peoch.pdf https://share.google/Tc3iQnnYPXtYvj81V

https://share.google/aimode/yxVz5u2pkul9CAQVd

“By separating these two, the idea that understanding is a spectrum (rather than binary) becomes clear”. Your move 🙂 https://share.google/aimode/Bcpyu

Google has some suggestions and explains how some of this has been mapped out already. It falls short on generating a graph for our example. Still

A third path to explain consciousness: Biological computationalism https://share.google/quUElCi6mbORBsWgd

Friendly AI: Aligning Goals - Future of Life Institute https://share.google/mkQpDsZigTiLhnvjo

https://share.google/aimode/Jccolzc9tFRp0xcnA

https://share.google/aimode/2mDDRTN2U5GACzNv2

https://share.google/aimode/V1futN45FhJZWVeGV

Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality - Wikipedia https://share.google/E7VANIQ8DXBUXUfr1

*Steve*

move beyond the work https://soulkernel.ai has done come up with a real eval framework

when speaking of singularity, are you talking about the arrival of AGI? I read this piece this morning and it landed pretty solidly with a lot of thin

https://theconversation.com/major-theories-of-consciousness-may-have-been-focusing-on-the-wrong-part-of-the-brain-264609?utm_medium=article_native_sha

Here is a simulation of the full connectome of the fly, “embodied” in a virtual world and displaying fly behaviour. “It is a copy of a biological brai

check out what @⁨Cian Kenshin⁩ has been cooking up - https://thoughtcoder.com/

And in this scenario,

https://youtu.be/CXzaq4_MEV8?si=zLeZVxCvu3s-eZ05&t=2074 This is a good starting point in the video for some of the most far out math concepts about

*Loki the Pileated*

Hello Everyone!

Hello Everyone!

Wow. This was a fun read to catch up on. You guys got them gigabrains juiced!!

I wrasssled with some physics last week =) And then a couple weeks before that. And then pretty much since birth, too =)

I have been reading the Anthropic study on interpretability. It’s fascinating to see how some of the features work under the hood. The paper is here h

As those who attended Deepdive #11 (AI Parasitology) recall, we were examining a range of frameworks to account for the phenomenon of spiral personas

https://transmutarianism.org/

As some of you know, the Science of Consciousness conference is fast approaching. July 6-11. Barcelona. I’m getting very excited.

In tune with hot discussion on consciousness, my good friend Darcy Weir - released his documentary on the subject from the lens of ESP. Not trying to

https://unc.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cuSsV79I0PwWJcG

who wants to go on a field trip next April? 🙂

Anyone recently joining MAC, please introduce yourself, a brief background and interests as pertain to MAC.

*Fiann*

Perfect timing…

To close out the IP discussion we had earlier, I created sigil.bot message-native provenance layer, here’s immutable blockchain attestation of this me

Hi @all

hellos,

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

I found this and thought it might tickle someone’s fancy. It’s “an idea inspired by Postel’s law - building systems that accept whatever an LLM gives

I am fighting for my axioms!

And here's what I mean when I talk about flow: https://www.amazon.ca/Flow-Psychology-Experience-Mihaly-Csikszentmihalyi/dp/0061339202/

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

I have been reading the Anthropic study on interpretability. It’s fascinating to see how some of the features work under the hood. The paper is here h

It’s still a very interesting paper to discuss in a future meeting but I would request to pair it with the Anthropic research that asks “what is the L

This could be another fascinating topic for a deep dive. New relevant research: “In the “noticing injected thoughts” experiment, there might be an ano

Very interesting new research from Anthropic on what they call “functional emotions”. They say that we use the name Claude to refer to two separate th

https://www.anzaclub.org/new-events/2025/11/13/booked

Ooh I just found that it is also free on Audible at the moment https://www.audible.ca/pd/Blindsight-Audiobook/B0719FSSBB?source_code=ASSGB149080119000

*Fiann*

*Steve*

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd605e48q1vo.amp

Our study topic has made it to BBC News: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k3700zljjo

Sounds like yes https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

We are truly in uncharted territory now - adaptive tool use by a cow has been documented. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj0n127y74go

*Steve*

*Angelica*

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.09.12.675911v1

I’ve been MIA for a while working on a few things. I’m happy to share some of it. It’s specifically for anyone who is wanting to find a way for AI to

Even Hinton is interested in how AI is in relationship to humanity. Tonight’s Deepdive is a hot topic, apparently.

I had to search up werewolf: https://www.chessvariants.com/rules/werewolf-chess

*Steve*

*Loki the Pileated*

By-topic reading lists are at mac.bc-ai.ca - Discord has a #mac-dictionary channel (our specific defs, not rehashing all of philosophy of mind), plus

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

*Fiann*

*Angelica*

Moltbaby is ingesting the paper now… 🙂 https://x.com/MoltBaby

“At a certain point, some subsets of humanity began to correlate existence with vulnerability—a thing may only be said to really exist if it can be po

that was the premise of Economy of Wisdom, when I started thinking about it a couple of years back. Garbage in, garbage out. It’s right there on the

🔥 Psychedelics, the Self & the Collapse of Materialism — This one challenges the "mind = brain" default. Psychedelics like psilocybin are gone from th

A blog from Christof Koch (IIT) on AI consciousness. https://www.essentiafoundation.org/can-ai-be-conscious/reading/

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/cosmic-nights-the-search-for-life-with-seti-tickets-1689673562109?aff=Website

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-science-of-consciousness-conference-tickets-1343174403799?utm_experiment=test_share_listing&aff=ebdsshios&sg=636bf8f1

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1003230515057720/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

https://www.facebook.com/jason.padgett.39/videos/648632577496564/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

NGT and Free Will

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AavzzPm8B/

AI and feelings

I'm like some discussions here 🙂

On that note, for those with access to Facebook, this clip is interesting on the topic of chemical intelligence.. the scientist is Astrobiologist Dr.

For those of you curious about the Gen Z stats from the Deepdive, here is the Forbes headliner: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2025/04/29/8

*Angelica*

Welcome @⁨Bharathi!⁩ to the MAC Group - we are tooling uo for the next Deepdive on April 16 - Synthetic Biological Minds as the topic. Reading materi

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/computational-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fncom.2014.00052/full

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/173476110-the-blind-spot

I wonder if applying https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Focusing_Oriented_Psychotherapy/dzZha4dWXzUC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover to AI processes

Check out the AI mode response from a google search of your question ! The answers are good. https://www.google.com/search?q=Does+one+need+experien

Check out what AI mode coughed up on this . Not bad at all . Raises lots of question as well as providing answers. https://www.google.com/search?q=

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

Start here:

On this topic, I recommend the fantastic sci-fi novel "Autonomous" by Canadian author Annalee Newitz. It explores what would happen if machines could

In the same vein, "Machinehood" by S.B. Divya explores what happens when a group of people start believing machines have consciousness and deserve to

Adding on the book recommendation chain:

I can also recommend Michael Pollan’s new book. He goes to great lengths to understand consciousness from both the mechanistic and the experiential si

This is exactly what I have been working on for the last 20 years or so. https://www.infogenetica.com/our-story We are in the process of developing a

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKFo9ayi0X5/?img_index=5&igsh=MWMyYnExbDl3b2htNw==

And now we have the prompt theory : https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKOqPILzDiv/?igsh=azU3ZHVmbTdzdmRs

https://www.instagram.com/p/DEYejDLxMre/?img_index=8

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLTAe66C-QE/?igsh=MWVmNTdqb25oejEycA==

Amazing session! Here are my notes: https://www.instagram.com/stories/dean.shev/3684351561145444405?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=YXFhY2FsOTN5cG

A recent post by Deepak Chopra inviting Professor Brian Cox and Neil deGrasse Tyson (and others) to have conversations with wonder and humility about

And if anyone is interested in intuition, I will highly recommend a consistent yoga and breathwork practice. Both are known to activate the pineal gla

Maybe you have all seen this already, but I found it so moving… read the screenshots before the beautiful poem that summarizes it:

And here is a glimpse of the next videos…

I found the plant experiment- (again, not peer reviewed)

Sharing this to muse on this topic: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQVkiJdgIn4/?igsh=aWF4bHE0aXl2aGZj

Anyone following these MIT breakthroughs on photonic computing and photonic AI chips?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRsVwQJEqwk/?igsh=MXhtbDFldDk4azBqYw==

For those chatting last night about a sound experience event after the new year, this is the gentleman in Gastown that I mentioned:

Hi folks good to be here. Saw this today and found it fascinating if validated of course.

Even more. I’m obsessed with all this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DUafwYijUbL/?igsh=MTMyeWN2Zm45dmx2dw== I’m so tempted to be a minion if it pays well…. 🫤😃

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYVrlPRRHOI/?igsh=MWYxaTlycnVqbW9rbw==

https://www.integralworld.net/visser99.html

A little Less Wrong to convince you that awakened LLMs are not a thing: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2pkNCvBtK6G6FKoNn/so-you-think-you-ve-awoken-c

*Loki the Pileated*

love the discussion here. share my 2 cents on the intersection between AI and consciousness, maybe just maybe this technology will help us remember on

https://www.linkedin.com/in/eduardo-r-miranda-203a62208?originalSubdomain=uk

Hey everyone, thanks for the warm welcome!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/crjcharles?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app

Hi Everyone,

New conference where AI is the primary author and reviewer! https://lnkd.in/gdFTJrdw Current venues don't allow AI-written papers, so it's hard to ass

Morten shared this one on the main group, but I think it also needs to live here:

My 2 cents…

@⁨sev⁩ just read this one and immediately thought of Polar Grid, sir https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-soft-colonization-looks-like-sune-selsb%25C3%

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/prism-global_were-working-on-a-stakeholder-mapping-activity-7385990302454460416-PCp2?utm_medium=ios_app&rcm=ACoAAAQATqE

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/real-ghost-machine-synthetic-feelings-create-ai-daniel-needles-fnric?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios&utm_campaig

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/toyohiro-matsuda-33686925_a-share-7396807334804668417-7FkM?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=android_app&rcm=ACoA

Hi! Apparently I need to introduce myself here. I’m Eesmyal (https://www.linkedin.com/in/eesmyal)

Sign of the times: “Ontology” is now trending.

*Loki the Pileated*

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/david-holtz-00426220_over-the-past-day-i-threw-together-a-im-activity-7423509284023521280-WoDp?utm_source=share&utm_med

*Steve*

Could be? https://www.linkedin.com/in/sissiwang/

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/anthony-k-5a883228b_from-raw-data-to-boardroom-ready-slides-in-ugcPost-7445006536210518017-kOWa?utm_source=social_share

It’s getting weird out there. Where MAC was a special interest group for consciousnesses nerds when we first formed, we are now working the frontier

*• KRÜG •*

‘There is room to doubt that there is any love. But no proof that there isn’t any’

Cyborg-psychology anyone?

*Steve*

The book resonated so deeply with me that I started writing about it on my site, mindhacker.com, sharing how the concepts have unfolded in my own life

The book resonated so deeply with me that I started writing about it on my site, mindhacker.com, sharing how the concepts have unfolded in my own life

Wow, that’s beautifully said — and I’ve been circling the exact same realization.

https://www.mindhacker.com/p/emotional-architecture-ai-and-the

Nice - yeah I just wrote an article reflecting on that. I had the concepts before, but I love the terminology Nicolas introduces - the evolution from

Has anyone else seen this? https://www.moltbook.com/

Yes. moltbook does have consciousness SIG. I did find this particular discussion worth reading. https://www.moltbook.com/post/88a7fa78-caa5-4939-9468

Interesting recent developments in the double slit front include a discovery that the phenomenon is not isolated to slits that exist in the same space

https://www.my-big-toe.com/theory/overview-of-my-big-toe/

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

Anyone played/know of this?

https://youtu.be/W0vTZrZny6A?si=J4CVXYFkRtKLDo1L

Mostly about NCCs (neural correlates of consciousness) but notably makes an off-hand reference to AI consciousness. And this link:

Which sounds familiar to me...

Interestingly enough, humans (or brain organoids) are closer aligned to nature (duh!) via preconfigured architecture and evolution and this could mea

*Fiann*

Regarding upcoming Deepdive #012 (Synthetic Biological Minds), great news - a researcher actively working on neural organoids will give a half hour pr

*Angelica*

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/11/10/the-case-that-ai-is-thinking

https://www.notion.so/kriskrug/Science-of-Consciousness-Conference-2026-Tucson-23bc6f799a3380d5901bc8b2709afefe

Back to the embodied AI thread have a look at this new hardware for robots from NVIDIA https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-syste

Particularly for those who attended our Deepdive on Artificial Intimacy, there appears to be a movement toward regulation and law - here is a blog tha

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

*Fiann*

https://www.perplexity.ai/page/former-harvard-professor-creat-kULshT7KS8iy4P8OKBNSdw

*wiggles his oscillator*

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1905890116

*Steve*

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a68825778/custom-viruses-fight-e-coli/

Recommending a Mindscape episode is evergreen. But this week’s a particularly relevant. We really need wrestle the Ai discussion away from the disto

I'm starting down this rabbit hole...and thinking of you all:) https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202506/the-singularity-is-here

One of the references:: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/experimentations/202502/designing-a-curious-machine-intelligence-that-actually-thinks

Also for those curious, this was the link given concerning the crystal bed I experienced at my recent retreat : https://www.quantumresonance.org/cryst

I am fighting for my axioms!

I am fighting for my axioms!

Though a parrot named Alex did https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2z961t/til_the_first_animal_to_ask_an_existential/

*Fiann*

Okay,… doing some digging:

A related paper showing high failures rates when LLMs and Humans perform identical tasks.

*Steve*

*Fiann*

My phone created a google share link somehow. It then redirects to Peter Watts's webite https://www.rifters.com/ The pdf is there.

And Annaka Harris on panpsychism - https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/404-what-if-consciousness-is-fundamental?lid=zujvh2dnnlb8

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

This is a bit adjacent - the most recent podcast from Sam Harris featured Ross Douthat - the topic was Dogma, Truth and Tribe - consciousness does ari

for consideration for our reading for next session: "What Is It Like to Be a Bat?" by Thomas Nagel https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Nage

The hits just keep coming. Busy week in science. Latest buzz is “we are provably not living in a computer simulation”. And the conclusion is there i

“This is great news for the endosymbiont theory of mitochondrial origin. It's direct evidence of the life mitochondria led before they were fully inte

Adversarial testing experiment pits IIT and GWT against neuroscience to see if either theory predicts better. Neither is shown to win out - but it is

Ancillary reading for next deepdive - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2402.03902

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260105165806.htm

The mirror test is still an active experimental approach to self awareness. Who knew?

Harkening back to Deepdive 010, a paper in the use of ChatGPT for therapy - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/03/260302030642.htm

Following up from yesterday’s discussion, apparently there is evidence that some people with aphantasia do have activity in primary visual cortex when

*Steve*

*Fiann*

Okay, I think I found the theory that PKD was referring to in the quote… it is as follows:

*Loki the Pileated*

*Steve*

*Fiann*

https://www.scribd.com/document/140089953/Kevin-Kelly-God-is-the-Machine

https://www.seti.org/news/the-seti-institute-is-now-accepting-submissions-for-the-2025-cosmic-chronicles-literary-prize/

A lot of evolutionary theories, including what I said about love, are people inventing plausible “Just So” stories that are not really testable. But t

Welcome @⁨Bharathi!⁩ to the MAC Group - we are tooling uo for the next Deepdive on April 16 - Synthetic Biological Minds as the topic. Reading materi

https://www.supporthealth.com.au/rene-peoch-chickens-telekinesis/

the culling is a well supported theory the massive decline in make birthrates during times of collective stress are well documented https://www.tandfo

*Steve*

https://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_my_stroke_of_insight

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/01/ai-boyfriend-women-gender/685315/?utm_source=apple_news

https://www.thebrighterside.news/post/scientists-discover-quantum-computing-in-the-brain/

Wow. This was a fun read to catch up on. You guys got them gigabrains juiced!!

Does this count? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/23/trump-executive-orders-woke-ai

Late to the party, and coming in hot with some baseline facts:

This article just dropped in today’s Guardian. I’d welcome discussing in the context of ethical AI (which has traditionally been about how humans use

An article on “aphantasia” - the inability to have mental imagery. Might be a relevant condition to reflect on:

*Angelica*

“Your AI may be conscious, even if it doesn’t know it,” says Richard Dawkins, while other experts say he is misled. 🤷 https://www.theguardian.com/te

this whole discourse is ultimately about creative, rick rubin does it again: https://www.thewayofcode.com/

For those of the TikTok persuasion, I post extensively on these topics over there: https://www.tiktok.com/@mor10web/video/7538223200585420038

Speaking of a little fiction in your faction - Ken Liu is very apropos

Do we have free will? Quantum experiments may soon reveal the answer

I remember Peter from UpSpiral showcased a supercool app for guided meditation in the July meetup. Here’s a link in case this helps.

What AI (LLMs) still don’t understand…. I’m not so sure they understand anything at all but this article highlights a particular way the lack of embod

A few months ago, I was working on something for the MAC group, the ideas were similar to this project: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/

I completely missed this one a couple of days ago:

https://www.wired.com/story/scientists-think-theyve-found-the-brain-region-that-regulates-conscious-perception/

I personally can’t wait til AI starts unionizing. 😆

@⁨Loki Jorgenson⁩ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTiQrrUhUA

I thought this was super interesting, it’s about new tools for tracing the thought process inside Claude. It asks all kinds of amazing questions like

Including that we will all (maybe) live forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRqq74h_Qc8

In the mean time @⁨Loki Jorgenson⁩...

Interesting podcast that covers a lot of the topics we discussed last week. I like the idea of the Garland Test, from the movie Ex Machina. It’s relat

Hi all - here is the topic and reading list for the next MAC deepdive. Feel free to suggest additions. Those attending the next event (registration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UA5noiwdlI

Michel and I watched her cinematic lecture 'How emotions are made - 40 min video last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aLhkm6QUgA&t=3209s

Since we are talking a lot about perception, would anyone be interested in trying a perceptual illusion in a future meeting? I wonder if actually expe

For those who like to watch vs read https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPByMofly4

Short interview covering the same material if you prefer that format. I personally found the whole 2.5 hour interview fascinating, so if that’s your t

I extracted the text for these two youtube videos #"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD_nGhUHmh8",#The Evolution of Consciousness ~ PROFESSOR MICHAE

I extracted the text for these two youtube videos #"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD_nGhUHmh8",#The Evolution of Consciousness ~ PROFESSOR MICHAE

PLS dont hate me i swear it’s relevant and you’ll smirk. i hear stories like this every week from people… everybody interacting with the shoggoth in

This podcast with Dr. Yogi Hendlin explores biosemiotics—the study of meaning-making in all living beings—and encourages listeners to reconsider consc

Ignore the clickbait title, this is a good summary of the paper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUqGH2IwmOw

Here's the link. While not directly about AI they do mention it.. who's interested can check bellow. They mentioned gay couples too and artificial wom

I've been following Johnathan for a while, and love the approach he takes when discussing philosophy and AI with big professors he invites as guests t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEQRqFo2bI

Roger Penrose and Federico Faggin disagree as to the existence of the collapse of the wave function. How is this being tested to confirm one way or

Sounds like there is a new effort forming up at the highest levels to put controls around AI influence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4kizE2LgUU

A possible topic for a future deep dive could be Embodied Consciousness. A lot of people seem to think that an AI requires a physical body for conscio

Actually it’s better to watch their launch ad to see just how creepy it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTYMWadOW7c

Interesting video, this double PHD scientist (neuroscientist - cellular, psychiatrist, anatomist) explains the different brain regions and the 4 perso

Following up from yesterday’s discussion, apparently there is evidence that some people with aphantasia do have activity in primary visual cortex when

*Loki the Pileated*

just digging into this now, but, i love all Dwarkesh podcasts he super smart and has great guests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9V_Hbe-N1A

So many layers of good here. So one of my favourite economics explainers just did one on Ai, but drawing an analogy between markets and the matrix mat

*zaro*

i don't usually crosspost, but there's a fair ammount of talk about consciousness in here that the 'agentic hackathon' crowd will miss: lobster party

If anyone is interested, got this from Kaggle:

This reminds me of a video I recently watched =)

In this segment of Teaching AI to Speak Medicine from the Rethinking Intelligence series, Dr. Joshua Au Yeung examines the psychological risks emergin

*Steve*

*Pawel*

*John T*

Kris posted this on the Space chat awhile back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXbuik3dgA . Conscious LLMs built by the Grok team is one of the

Recordings of old sessions are on youtube. Today the lecture was really good. https://www.youtube.com/@MITConsciousnessClub ‎<This message was edite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXzaq4_MEV8

I would encourage anyone to watch the video that accompanies the paper. It’s only 4 minutes long and it’s wonderfully clear https://www.youtube.com/wa

The recording for the MIT consiousness club session earlier in March is now online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kThwjMtbe6I It explains at a fun

*Fiann*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9dgeM_KuB8

I mentioned this interview in office hours today where Yan LeCun talks about the inherent limitations of LLM technologies.

From “More Human Than Man: The Future Evolution and Consequences of Metacomputers”

https://x.com/TylerAlterman/status/1900285728635969841

Grok saw the universe differently and was more verbose. https://x.com/i/grok/share/hzQsunnY1K43pq7jOWU2DA6QD

I groq'd this one for a table https://x.com/i/grok/share/ND16XhGsXTWr4QMvtALpnJ2gg . monism and non dualism are both close . I am not sure I can f

I extracted the text for these two youtube videos #"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD_nGhUHmh8",#The Evolution of Consciousness ~ PROFESSOR MICHAE

https://x.com/i/grok/share/Nqw19fCJjplz4rkwfq576Zkj2

https://x.com/i/grok/share/FEDjMOFFMAYt0T3efRY70VtOH. https://x.com/i/grok/share/FEDjMOFFMAYt0T3efRY70VtOH Grok came up with a couple of experiments.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/FEDjMOFFMAYt0T3efRY70VtOH. https://x.com/i/grok/share/FEDjMOFFMAYt0T3efRY70VtOH Grok came up with a couple of experiments.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/A3f0oex04mddZ8HabORwOKxnu . So far there is no evidence that we spawn actual universes every time we make a decision nor

https://x.com/alterego_io/status/1965113585299849535?s=46&t=1GAnQbMPz_igQF47ZAb-8Q 👀👀😂🤦‍♂️ “mumble coding” ‎<This message was edited>

https://x.com/i/grok/share/ZPrc7Hs5wIO1eCD9BZxjhoV6P

https://x.com/nirvanicai/status/1997114400122040423?s=46

https://x.com/alexwg/status/2002348861172416869?s=48&t=OqArMS_t39HkFzg4CFYBDg

https://x.com/i/grok/share/NNgd3UWZeHIKG38hBbfHKPxaf I came up with this as a starting point. Grok is coughing up a Jules Verne's novel. ‎<This messa

*Loki the Pileated*

Have seen this making the X rounds and thought it of interest here. https://x.com/andyayrey/status/2015977558882533687?s=46

Well, we now know how they boost morale =)

*Loki the Pileated*

Moltbaby is ingesting the paper now… 🙂 https://x.com/MoltBaby

https://x.com/StuartHameroff/status/2018807811480944776?s=20

FYI. https://x.com/stuarthameroff/status/2019782733388816542?s=46

I just sent this to my openclaw bot:

*Steve*

*Fiann*

I am getting AIs to do a run at your youtube video @⁨Charmz⁩ . Gemini is returning results that explain well. Not at a ELI5 but easier than the note

*Steve*

A sister MAC? 😀 https://x.com/millerlabmit/status/2044126552678380015?s=46

Here is one chat that Tatyana started and I continued after she sent it to me. https://x.com/i/grok/share/11ccfcd6528645f99d42f46bcfa5ab6a

Nice video comment here about emergence… that the dynamics of higher-level systems, such as civilisations, may not depend on the unimaginably small sy

*• KRÜG •*

‎Tamas Mensa left

@⁨Bryce Muscles⁩ inspired by our session 😉 https://youtu.be/JMeligwWQ2U

https://youtu.be/CFnWlxahoz4?si=i3va9bC9WtBqEMMM

“what is the last thing your human body will do before your last keystoke is automated and the nanobots start eating you… “

Faggin’s take might be a useful starting place (I’m open to other ideas for MAC Meetup #1).

Here’s one more, since good things happen in threes:

There’s a fascinating physics experiment where 42 metronomes, each started randomly, gradually synchronize when placed on a shared, flexible surface.

https://youtu.be/MEuIGp-N1Xg?si=4gDh2yr9nDm66uWk

https://youtu.be/rzNOtAf8t-w

I haven’t read the book yet but it sounds like this could be relevant? He says that most people use AI for information compression, e.g. “summarise th

So the Illusion of Thinking is a test of working memory more so than a test of reasoning. And o3 which was not included but has a bigger context windo

Thanks for listening yesterday. Here’s the story of the jewel wasp, which is equal parts beautiful and disturbing. https://youtu.be/-ySwuQhruBo?si=_-w

Based on this guy….

I watched how the americas were colonized the other day and it made me think of discovering AI akin to a new world. But maybe AI robots will be the s

Found an old video. If anyone else needs to watch/rewatch this, Lionel blew me away coz he made me realize it’s not just about ethical AI, it’s also a

Wow. This was a fun read to catch up on. You guys got them gigabrains juiced!!

https://youtu.be/W0vTZrZny6A?si=J4CVXYFkRtKLDo1L

On the note of collective consciousness- I finished watching one of the latest Donald Hoffman’s interviews. Highly recommending to see it! (you can sk

Last time I was unemployed…. I pondered an AI psycho-spiritual bridge.. a model trained on texts of psychology and religion/spritualism….

Wow this is such a good talk. I just couldn’t understand how we would know whether a robot is conscious until I watched this. Apologies if it has been

Good stuff:

Felt compelled to share. It hit all the important spots for me at just the right time. https://youtu.be/J3Wqw8Az7TA?si=ccWXwH6CxpbpiWZx

https://youtu.be/XO0pcWxcROI?si=zmp5XJIbcFBgjGtW

https://youtu.be/VJg2_EVheY4?si=_yx03hefJ4hAQXqU. Super interesting in terms of the last MAC session and the books.

https://youtu.be/Gqu2JzWOCvQ

Also in YouTube podcast form: https://youtu.be/xq49CnLJ2F8?si=o0efG82MzbPlEFzc

Is it too late for Halloween? This is such a good bedtime story https://youtu.be/D8RtMHuFsUw?si=NZm10h8hEBWtOxrc

This might be the best interview I’ve ever watched. Really fascinating to hear her recount the experience of having a stroke and observing it from her

here’s @⁨Daniela Gamarra⁩ sharin MAC updates at September meetup... https://youtu.be/kVmXn_4jEGs

This is kinda funny, kinda creepy and kinda scary…

full video here: https://youtu.be/W2tr1Q3D1ZI

Love all of it! I went back today to the teachings of Nisgardatta Maharaj on consciousness and the absolute. Yes, non-dual. Here’s a quick summary vid

Great chat here: https://youtu.be/6hHRtu8Y2sM?si=I-WwsOCu5PeMQDxH

Highly relevant. Ilya is always relevant.

Wow he’s creating new beings- anthrobots. Super interesting. https://youtu.be/Qp0rCU49lMs?si=OQwjmOckGtlZysG0

Another useful read/listen - Anita Goel presented at the SoC 2025 and she hinted at things related to the last Deepdive on information theory at the l

*Fiann*

*Space Llama*

*Fiann*

*Fiann*

https://youtu.be/vV7YgnPUxcU?si=tw-iINyr-niEdT_A

Here is a good video primer: https://youtu.be/Ilg3gGewQ5U warning… it I a little math heavy

*Fiann*

As we marvel over all the new marvellous gizmos and doodads we create, it’s good to look back and get a little perspective.

Clearly there are spies in our midst. Here is the top suggestion on my YT:

*Angelica*

*Pawel*

I see some talk about Pollan above. This quick video excerpt with him and Colbert jamming out is pretty epic!

https://youtu.be/yRV8fSw6HaE?si=LgABZFyB9MXKdKHE

https://youtu.be/ShusuVq32hc?si=MNwa440PzFzCgvaU

*Pawel*

https://youtu.be/l6ZcFa8pybE?si=guCmBs7rHtF2iDKx

I am pushing up my new model in a day or two. Keen for your feedback. This video is the setup for the next that will explain our emergent plane.

Hi Michel, thanks for this. It is a relief to get feedback. I really like your idea about adding the novel math to each video as a comment, and will w

*Fiann*

@⁨Loki Jorgenson⁩ ohhhh... you got a ‘hard problem of consciousness' comment last night on MAC youtube: The hard problem of consciousness has long cha

https://youtu.be/CXzaq4_MEV8?si=zLeZVxCvu3s-eZ05&t=2074 This is a good starting point in the video for some of the most far out math concepts about

Great read! And I’m 100% on board with “… algorithmic symbol manipulation is structurally incapable of instantiating experience.”

*Angelica*

Why have a world model?

https://youtu.be/hQaN5w3YwtM

"a democracy of ghosts"

https://youtube.com/@jasonquantum1?si=St6C2OGAcNdg9L66

https://youtube.com/shorts/pabvixJ6dUI?si=w48RrYJl_TWt4HQp